Comments on: Mr Angry’s rules for recruitment agencies dealing with contractors http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/08/04/mr-angrys-rules-for-recruitment-agencies-dealing-with-contractors/ The original Mr Angry... Finding something to be angry about every day of the year Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:44:03 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: GeoLabs » Links for December 2nd through February 27th http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/08/04/mr-angrys-rules-for-recruitment-agencies-dealing-with-contractors/#comment-29211 GeoLabs » Links for December 2nd through February 27th Wed, 28 Feb 2007 00:32:26 +0000 https://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/08/04/mr-angrys-rules-for-recruitment-agencies-dealing-with-contractors/#comment-29211 [...] Mr Angry’s rules for recruitment agencies dealing with contractors « Angry 365 Days a Year - [...] [...] Mr Angry’s rules for recruitment agencies dealing with contractors « Angry 365 Days a Year – [...]

]]> By: Mr Angry http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/08/04/mr-angrys-rules-for-recruitment-agencies-dealing-with-contractors/#comment-27026 Mr Angry Tue, 23 Jan 2007 04:19:04 +0000 https://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/08/04/mr-angrys-rules-for-recruitment-agencies-dealing-with-contractors/#comment-27026 I didn't say that contractors should literally say "As much as I can get" I said agencies shouldn't play games. If you know what rate a contractor can get (and of course you do know this) then just tell them. Anything else feels like we're being screwed. I didn’t say that contractors should literally say “As much as I can get” I said agencies shouldn’t play games. If you know what rate a contractor can get (and of course you do know this) then just tell them. Anything else feels like we’re being screwed.

]]> By: AngryRecruiter http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/08/04/mr-angrys-rules-for-recruitment-agencies-dealing-with-contractors/#comment-27023 AngryRecruiter Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:49:06 +0000 https://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/08/04/mr-angrys-rules-for-recruitment-agencies-dealing-with-contractors/#comment-27023 I completely agree with you on all issue excecpt one. As a long serving recruiter I don't think your rules regarding money work in the real world. Firstly with regards to the rate. We are not always in a position to offer you a rate as we are governed by our clients. They will ask us, like we ask you what a contractor costs and until we know what you are seeking, it's impossible for us to come to a rate. I have a set margin that I put on all contractors, it's simply your rate, plus government taxes etc, plus our margin. We then present this price to our clients. You are a contractor no different to any other industry. When a painting contractor comes to your house, the customer will ask, how much do you charge. If the painter said, "pay me as much as you can", you'd quickly close the door and call another painter. If you honestly cannot value your time then why contract. I completely agree with you on all issue excecpt one. As a long serving recruiter I don’t think your rules regarding money work in the real world.

Firstly with regards to the rate. We are not always in a position to offer you a rate as we are governed by our clients. They will ask us, like we ask you what a contractor costs and until we know what you are seeking, it’s impossible for us to come to a rate. I have a set margin that I put on all contractors, it’s simply your rate, plus government taxes etc, plus our margin. We then present this price to our clients.
You are a contractor no different to any other industry. When a painting contractor comes to your house, the customer will ask, how much do you charge. If the painter said, “pay me as much as you can”, you’d quickly close the door and call another painter. If you honestly cannot value your time then why contract.

]]> By: bad agencies http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/08/04/mr-angrys-rules-for-recruitment-agencies-dealing-with-contractors/#comment-13270 bad agencies Mon, 27 Nov 2006 10:15:57 +0000 https://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/08/04/mr-angrys-rules-for-recruitment-agencies-dealing-with-contractors/#comment-13270 Have you checked this website? www.badagencies.com. Your postings together will make agencies change! Have you checked this website?

http://www.badagencies.com. Your postings together will make agencies change!

]]> By: FollowSteph.com » Weekly 7 http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/08/04/mr-angrys-rules-for-recruitment-agencies-dealing-with-contractors/#comment-4159 FollowSteph.com » Weekly 7 Sat, 26 Aug 2006 18:05:36 +0000 https://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/08/04/mr-angrys-rules-for-recruitment-agencies-dealing-with-contractors/#comment-4159 [...] Mr Angry’s rules for recruitment agencies dealing with contractors Having been a contractor in the past, I can tell you these are some very good rules on how to recruite quality contractors. [...] [...] Mr Angry’s rules for recruitment agencies dealing with contractors Having been a contractor in the past, I can tell you these are some very good rules on how to recruite quality contractors. [...]

]]> By: Mr Angry http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/08/04/mr-angrys-rules-for-recruitment-agencies-dealing-with-contractors/#comment-3341 Mr Angry Sat, 05 Aug 2006 04:34:08 +0000 https://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/08/04/mr-angrys-rules-for-recruitment-agencies-dealing-with-contractors/#comment-3341 Thanks Mike, and you made the perfect point - contractors aren't stupid. I have no idea why bad agencies think they can get away with they rubbish they try. Thanks Mike, and you made the perfect point – contractors aren’t stupid. I have no idea why bad agencies think they can get away with they rubbish they try.

]]> By: Mike http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/08/04/mr-angrys-rules-for-recruitment-agencies-dealing-with-contractors/#comment-3324 Mike Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:45:37 +0000 https://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/08/04/mr-angrys-rules-for-recruitment-agencies-dealing-with-contractors/#comment-3324 Spot on as always, Mr. Angry. Here in the States they tend to play the same compensation games. I remember one case where I was interviewed by the employer after the recruiter had given them my resume. The employer basically told me, "Hey, you look great for this job, but I just can't pay the $x that the agency is asking for. Can you talk to them for me?" Naturally, the $x was $2y, where y was what they were offering me. When I brought this up with the recruiter, the guy got very red-faced and went into an unsolicited tirade justifying why they were paid so much. At that point it didn't really matter because the trust wasn't there anymore and I wasn't going to work with these guys. Recruiters, please treat your contractors with respect. We aren't stupid, and we have long memories. If you treat us well there is a good chance we will refer you other qualified candidates and talk you up with the clients. Thank you. Spot on as always, Mr. Angry. Here in the States they tend to play the same compensation games. I remember one case where I was interviewed by the employer after the recruiter had given them my resume. The employer basically told me, “Hey, you look great for this job, but I just can’t pay the $x that the agency is asking for. Can you talk to them for me?” Naturally, the $x was $2y, where y was what they were offering me. When I brought this up with the recruiter, the guy got very red-faced and went into an unsolicited tirade justifying why they were paid so much. At that point it didn’t really matter because the trust wasn’t there anymore and I wasn’t going to work with these guys.

Recruiters, please treat your contractors with respect. We aren’t stupid, and we have long memories. If you treat us well there is a good chance we will refer you other qualified candidates and talk you up with the clients. Thank you.

]]> By: Mr Angry http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/08/04/mr-angrys-rules-for-recruitment-agencies-dealing-with-contractors/#comment-3319 Mr Angry Fri, 04 Aug 2006 11:22:49 +0000 https://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/08/04/mr-angrys-rules-for-recruitment-agencies-dealing-with-contractors/#comment-3319 That's a positive spin Range! That’s a positive spin Range!

]]> By: range http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/08/04/mr-angrys-rules-for-recruitment-agencies-dealing-with-contractors/#comment-3313 range Fri, 04 Aug 2006 06:22:36 +0000 https://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/08/04/mr-angrys-rules-for-recruitment-agencies-dealing-with-contractors/#comment-3313 No more like bounty hunters or mercenaries, going to the highest bidder! No more like bounty hunters or mercenaries, going to the highest bidder!

]]> By: Mr Angry http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/08/04/mr-angrys-rules-for-recruitment-agencies-dealing-with-contractors/#comment-3310 Mr Angry Fri, 04 Aug 2006 05:14:16 +0000 https://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/08/04/mr-angrys-rules-for-recruitment-agencies-dealing-with-contractors/#comment-3310 I think that just makes you sluts Sandra ;) Whore do it for the money too! I think that just makes you sluts Sandra ;) Whore do it for the money too!

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