Comments on: When is workplace discretion the better part of valour? http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/10/23/when-is-workplace-discretion-the-better-part-of-valour/ The original Mr Angry... Finding something to be angry about every day of the year Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:44:03 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Mr Angry http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/10/23/when-is-workplace-discretion-the-better-part-of-valour/#comment-7401 Mr Angry Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:16:37 +0000 http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/10/23/when-is-workplace-discretion-the-better-part-of-valour/#comment-7401 I tend to think that too much academia sucks the insight roight out of people :) I tend to think that too much academia sucks the insight roight out of people :)

]]> By: Maliha http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/10/23/when-is-workplace-discretion-the-better-part-of-valour/#comment-7397 Maliha Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:47:33 +0000 http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/10/23/when-is-workplace-discretion-the-better-part-of-valour/#comment-7397 Salamaat, wow I am truly impressed! I work with some BA's who have comp sci degrees *and* MBA's and they don't have half the insight that you show here. Awesome Mr. Angry :) I am so proud of you! Salamaat,
wow I am truly impressed! I work with some BA’s who have comp sci degrees *and* MBA’s and they don’t have half the insight that you show here.

Awesome Mr. Angry :) I am so proud of you!

]]> By: Mr Angry http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/10/23/when-is-workplace-discretion-the-better-part-of-valour/#comment-7363 Mr Angry Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:43:50 +0000 http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/10/23/when-is-workplace-discretion-the-better-part-of-valour/#comment-7363 Maliha: the quick version - I majored in acting and writing (scriptwriting) and did a lot of radio work. A lot of fun but useless for getting a job. While unemployed I saw a job ad saying "out of work actors, use your voice skils) - it was for telemarketing. I went from telemarketing to customer service. I worked my way up to team leader in the call centre for a big insurance company. One day the manager said "You've got an analytical mind, you'd make a good Business Analyst. So I moved sideways and learned the trade "on the job" (I have no formal qualifications which drives CompSci types nuts). That was 10 years ago, so everything you read here is the product of 10 years in the IT trenches :) Maliha: the quick version – I majored in acting and writing (scriptwriting) and did a lot of radio work. A lot of fun but useless for getting a job. While unemployed I saw a job ad saying “out of work actors, use your voice skils) – it was for telemarketing. I went from telemarketing to customer service. I worked my way up to team leader in the call centre for a big insurance company. One day the manager said “You’ve got an analytical mind, you’d make a good Business Analyst. So I moved sideways and learned the trade “on the job” (I have no formal qualifications which drives CompSci types nuts).

That was 10 years ago, so everything you read here is the product of 10 years in the IT trenches :)

]]> By: Mike-O-Matic » Playing Politics, Part 1 http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/10/23/when-is-workplace-discretion-the-better-part-of-valour/#comment-7356 Mike-O-Matic » Playing Politics, Part 1 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:59:19 +0000 http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/10/23/when-is-workplace-discretion-the-better-part-of-valour/#comment-7356 [...] Excellent (and well-timed) post at Mr. Angry’s blog today.  Titled When is Workplace Discretion the Better Part of Valour, it describes some ways of handling prickly situations at work in which you need to stand up against a particular proposal without becoming a corporate casualty. [...] [...] Excellent (and well-timed) post at Mr. Angry’s blog today.  Titled When is Workplace Discretion the Better Part of Valour, it describes some ways of handling prickly situations at work in which you need to stand up against a particular proposal without becoming a corporate casualty. [...]

]]> By: Maliha http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/10/23/when-is-workplace-discretion-the-better-part-of-valour/#comment-7340 Maliha Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:50:58 +0000 http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/10/23/when-is-workplace-discretion-the-better-part-of-valour/#comment-7340 Salamaat, I am really curious on your journey into the world of BAs Mr Angry. You mentioned before you had a degree in theater; how did you make the move? Also did you specialize in a certain area like sales, finance, etc (business wise) and then studied the technical or both? Okay, you can email me if you don't want to write about it here. take care :) Salamaat,
I am really curious on your journey into the world of BAs Mr Angry. You mentioned before you had a degree in theater; how did you make the move? Also did you specialize in a certain area like sales, finance, etc (business wise) and then studied the technical or both?

Okay, you can email me if you don’t want to write about it here. take care :)

]]> By: The Lair » straight out of dilbert http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/10/23/when-is-workplace-discretion-the-better-part-of-valour/#comment-7337 The Lair » straight out of dilbert Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:36:14 +0000 http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/10/23/when-is-workplace-discretion-the-better-part-of-valour/#comment-7337 [...] You know there’s a bubble afoot when the Dow hits 12k. So, what would be more obvious than a spate of rotten projects and burnout articles? Yup, Dare Obasanjo talks about identifying bad projects. An interesting tie-in with that, the AngryAussie on workplace discretion. Incidentally, angryaussie and engtech have now become regular reads since Joel jumped the shark. [...] [...] You know there’s a bubble afoot when the Dow hits 12k. So, what would be more obvious than a spate of rotten projects and burnout articles? Yup, Dare Obasanjo talks about identifying bad projects. An interesting tie-in with that, the AngryAussie on workplace discretion. Incidentally, angryaussie and engtech have now become regular reads since Joel jumped the shark. [...]

]]> By: Mr Angry http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/10/23/when-is-workplace-discretion-the-better-part-of-valour/#comment-7323 Mr Angry Tue, 24 Oct 2006 02:28:49 +0000 http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/10/23/when-is-workplace-discretion-the-better-part-of-valour/#comment-7323 Yes, the patience requirement is often overlooked and undervalued. Yes, the patience requirement is often overlooked and undervalued.

]]> By: Blanka http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/10/23/when-is-workplace-discretion-the-better-part-of-valour/#comment-7312 Blanka Mon, 23 Oct 2006 22:06:42 +0000 http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2006/10/23/when-is-workplace-discretion-the-better-part-of-valour/#comment-7312 Dear Mr. Angry, I definitely know what you are talking about here. If developers were as exposed to clients as I am, that would probably end up with some serious physical injuries. Business analysts are protecting the society from violence and crime, in fact. ;) In my previous company I worked on product which was sold online, to the invisible customers, and I only had contact with customers through support. Their requests for features were sometimes… interesting. But only after I moved to another company and had direct contact with customers I realized how difficult that job is. In my case, writing notes and emails about “who said what and when” has unfortunately become a routine. Now I know patience is definitely a number one skill for any BA. Regards! Dear Mr. Angry,

I definitely know what you are talking about here. If developers were as exposed to clients as I am, that would probably end up with some serious physical injuries. Business analysts are protecting the society from violence and crime, in fact. ;)

In my previous company I worked on product which was sold online, to the invisible customers, and I only had contact with customers through support. Their requests for features were sometimes… interesting. But only after I moved to another company and had direct contact with customers I realized how difficult that job is. In my case, writing notes and emails about “who said what and when” has unfortunately become a routine.

Now I know patience is definitely a number one skill for any BA.

Regards!

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