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	<description>The original Mr Angry... Finding something to be angry about every day of the year</description>
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		<title>By: Mr Angry</title>
		<link>http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/its-the-same-old-story/#comment-31034</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Angry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Range: Yes, I think there&#039;s a difference between accepting that these attacks are inevitable and thinking they are in any way tolerable.

Jessica: I think the best we can do not contribute to it, make it clear to perpetrators we don&#039;t accept it and support those on the receiving end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Range: Yes, I think there&#8217;s a difference between accepting that these attacks are inevitable and thinking they are in any way tolerable.</p>
<p>Jessica: I think the best we can do not contribute to it, make it clear to perpetrators we don&#8217;t accept it and support those on the receiving end.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica Doyle</title>
		<link>http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/its-the-same-old-story/#comment-31032</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica Doyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Angry - it doesn&#039;t surprise me either. 

Yet, I hope one day all people&#039;s will respect each other enough to not threaten death on another when facing their own fears.

&lt;i&gt;My prayers are with you Kathy.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Angry &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t surprise me either. </p>
<p>Yet, I hope one day all people&#8217;s will respect each other enough to not threaten death on another when facing their own fears.</p>
<p><i>My prayers are with you Kathy.</i></p>
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		<title>By: On Kathy Sierra And Blog Death Threats &#171; memoirs on a rainy day</title>
		<link>http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/its-the-same-old-story/#comment-30806</link>
		<dc:creator>On Kathy Sierra And Blog Death Threats &#171; memoirs on a rainy day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 03:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: On Kathy Sierra And Blog Death Threats at memoirs on a rainy day</title>
		<link>http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/its-the-same-old-story/#comment-30805</link>
		<dc:creator>On Kathy Sierra And Blog Death Threats at memoirs on a rainy day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 03:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: range</title>
		<link>http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/its-the-same-old-story/#comment-30792</link>
		<dc:creator>range</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 02:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are idiots everywhere. 

And haters as well.

Naturally I believe such statements are reprehensible, but in a world where more and more groups come online, such as neo-nazis and the like, you will get more and more of these types of comments or statements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are idiots everywhere. </p>
<p>And haters as well.</p>
<p>Naturally I believe such statements are reprehensible, but in a world where more and more groups come online, such as neo-nazis and the like, you will get more and more of these types of comments or statements.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Angry</title>
		<link>http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/its-the-same-old-story/#comment-30724</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Angry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vetti: I agree.  I can cope with vile, hateful loser.  Real threats of violence or incitement to violence are criminal offences.

mhargrave: The funny thing is that the people who do this are almost always traceable.  We don&#039;t need new laws because existing laws cover it.  When someone crosses the line they should be reported to law enforcement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vetti: I agree.  I can cope with vile, hateful loser.  Real threats of violence or incitement to violence are criminal offences.</p>
<p>mhargrave: The funny thing is that the people who do this are almost always traceable.  We don&#8217;t need new laws because existing laws cover it.  When someone crosses the line they should be reported to law enforcement.</p>
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		<title>By: mhargrave</title>
		<link>http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/its-the-same-old-story/#comment-30676</link>
		<dc:creator>mhargrave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s going to need to happen one of these days is the formation of some sort of internet law enforcement with tasers that work via usb and subdue offenders.
A little far-fetched, but still a neat idea.
I once did a joking blog about pepper spray that shoots from the monitor of computers to ward off hackers. I&#039;ll not link to it so as not to appear to be a spammer.
In all seriousness, though, I think that there will just eventually need to be some serious, strict form of law/ethics enforcement on the internet that specializes in just that.
Since the internet is constantly offering new forms of freedom and abilities to express onesself, the current methods of enforcement in each respective country are just trying to learn as they go, and it&#039;s getting a little ugly and messy.
Here comes Big Brother!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s going to need to happen one of these days is the formation of some sort of internet law enforcement with tasers that work via usb and subdue offenders.<br />
A little far-fetched, but still a neat idea.<br />
I once did a joking blog about pepper spray that shoots from the monitor of computers to ward off hackers. I&#8217;ll not link to it so as not to appear to be a spammer.<br />
In all seriousness, though, I think that there will just eventually need to be some serious, strict form of law/ethics enforcement on the internet that specializes in just that.<br />
Since the internet is constantly offering new forms of freedom and abilities to express onesself, the current methods of enforcement in each respective country are just trying to learn as they go, and it&#8217;s getting a little ugly and messy.<br />
Here comes Big Brother!</p>
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		<title>By: vettiliveinnorthcote</title>
		<link>http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/its-the-same-old-story/#comment-30526</link>
		<dc:creator>vettiliveinnorthcote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 07:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it would be peachy if the interweb (and &quot;real world&quot;) was devoid of threatening arseholes, but we know they&#039;re out there.  guess the best thing to do is take measures to protect yourself, and, if things get too heavy, involve the authorities. 

harassment is unacceptable. bloggers shouldn&#039;t be expected to shut up and take it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it would be peachy if the interweb (and &#8220;real world&#8221;) was devoid of threatening arseholes, but we know they&#8217;re out there.  guess the best thing to do is take measures to protect yourself, and, if things get too heavy, involve the authorities. </p>
<p>harassment is unacceptable. bloggers shouldn&#8217;t be expected to shut up and take it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Angry</title>
		<link>http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/its-the-same-old-story/#comment-30523</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Angry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Massif: Rambling forgiven.  It’s a topic that makes me go off at some lengths too.

Tom: Self evident is a great phrase.  It seems to mean “I’ve stopped thinking”

Natalia: I absolutely agree with you.  I hope I didn’t come across as thinking “if you can’t stand the heat stay out of the kitchen”  Some of those psychos are applying far more heat than any decent human should have to put up with.  I only mean that if someone really can’t withstand the assaults while we ALL fight back against them then taking yourself out of the public eye can be a very sensible course of action.  I tend to fight them rather than let them get away with their vile behaviour.

Engtech: What also stood out was how the perpetrators were linked to some VERY high profile people.  I wonder what steps those high profile people are taking?

Candice: it does indeed suck.

Tom: I believe this has been passed to the police who believe a criminal offence has been committed.

Aphra: You’ve highlighted one of the behaviours of these sick bastards that really disgusts me: the tendency to seek out the weak and vulnerable.  On YouTube, quite a few people with serious disabilities and mental conditions post videos and seem to get quite a bit of “therapy” out of it.  But these sick bastards launch the most vicious attacks imaginable against them.  Some days, humanity really disgusts me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Massif: Rambling forgiven.  It’s a topic that makes me go off at some lengths too.</p>
<p>Tom: Self evident is a great phrase.  It seems to mean “I’ve stopped thinking”</p>
<p>Natalia: I absolutely agree with you.  I hope I didn’t come across as thinking “if you can’t stand the heat stay out of the kitchen”  Some of those psychos are applying far more heat than any decent human should have to put up with.  I only mean that if someone really can’t withstand the assaults while we ALL fight back against them then taking yourself out of the public eye can be a very sensible course of action.  I tend to fight them rather than let them get away with their vile behaviour.</p>
<p>Engtech: What also stood out was how the perpetrators were linked to some VERY high profile people.  I wonder what steps those high profile people are taking?</p>
<p>Candice: it does indeed suck.</p>
<p>Tom: I believe this has been passed to the police who believe a criminal offence has been committed.</p>
<p>Aphra: You’ve highlighted one of the behaviours of these sick bastards that really disgusts me: the tendency to seek out the weak and vulnerable.  On YouTube, quite a few people with serious disabilities and mental conditions post videos and seem to get quite a bit of “therapy” out of it.  But these sick bastards launch the most vicious attacks imaginable against them.  Some days, humanity really disgusts me.</p>
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		<title>By: Aphra Behn</title>
		<link>http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/its-the-same-old-story/#comment-30423</link>
		<dc:creator>Aphra Behn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 23:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blimey - I agree with lots of people here.  

I too have taken time offline for &quot;silence and reflection&quot; when the corner of cyberspace I was in went nuts.  It&#039;s a good way to respond.

I think one of my earliest lessons from online communities was that there really are nutters out there; great, big, serious, dangerous nutters.  I was on a literate site, so our nutters (with one exception) didn&#039;t issue death-threats.  But one in particular sought out the mentally vulnerable and worked hard to make them break. It&#039;s not pretty seeing people sent - literally - mad online.  I actually ran an online &quot;survivors&quot; site for a while.

Some of us have led lives more sheltered than others, but all of our lives are narrower than cyber-space.  

I find it extraordinary that people post in their own names about their own family members, put up photos of their kids, blog about them with their own names, say where they live.  All of those things.   

Full of weirdos, the Internet.  And I don&#039;t think there&#039;s much one can do about it.  We assume that the world is full of people like us, but it isn&#039;t, and the Internet is one of the few things that makes this really really obvious.

Aphra.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blimey &#8211; I agree with lots of people here.  </p>
<p>I too have taken time offline for &#8220;silence and reflection&#8221; when the corner of cyberspace I was in went nuts.  It&#8217;s a good way to respond.</p>
<p>I think one of my earliest lessons from online communities was that there really are nutters out there; great, big, serious, dangerous nutters.  I was on a literate site, so our nutters (with one exception) didn&#8217;t issue death-threats.  But one in particular sought out the mentally vulnerable and worked hard to make them break. It&#8217;s not pretty seeing people sent &#8211; literally &#8211; mad online.  I actually ran an online &#8220;survivors&#8221; site for a while.</p>
<p>Some of us have led lives more sheltered than others, but all of our lives are narrower than cyber-space.  </p>
<p>I find it extraordinary that people post in their own names about their own family members, put up photos of their kids, blog about them with their own names, say where they live.  All of those things.   </p>
<p>Full of weirdos, the Internet.  And I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s much one can do about it.  We assume that the world is full of people like us, but it isn&#8217;t, and the Internet is one of the few things that makes this really really obvious.</p>
<p>Aphra.</p>
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