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		<title>By: Must Read Today - New Links (31 July 2007) &#171; Ali Writes Here!</title>
		<link>http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/why-an-average-career-can-be-a-great-career/#comment-64914</link>
		<dc:creator>Must Read Today - New Links (31 July 2007) &#171; Ali Writes Here!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Career Career goals for next 6 months Why an average career can be a great career [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mr Angry</title>
		<link>http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/why-an-average-career-can-be-a-great-career/#comment-62956</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Angry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 23:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jim, I&#039;m all for striving for the highest goal, I just thing some perspective and balance is important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jim, I&#8217;m all for striving for the highest goal, I just thing some perspective and balance is important.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Amos</title>
		<link>http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/why-an-average-career-can-be-a-great-career/#comment-62772</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Amos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 00:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for writing this. I am one of those Quixotic types but only part-time. Its all ebb and flow for me - some days I think if I just talk to that one influential person the company will suddenly realize that treating programmers more like rockstars would not be a complete waste of time and money; other days I commit myself to the rather Sisyphian reality that I&#039;m up against so many odds, not least of which - pure unadulterated ignorance of what great programmers actually do and their true value to the company. This was a well expressed article and I look forward to more of the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for writing this. I am one of those Quixotic types but only part-time. Its all ebb and flow for me &#8211; some days I think if I just talk to that one influential person the company will suddenly realize that treating programmers more like rockstars would not be a complete waste of time and money; other days I commit myself to the rather Sisyphian reality that I&#8217;m up against so many odds, not least of which &#8211; pure unadulterated ignorance of what great programmers actually do and their true value to the company. This was a well expressed article and I look forward to more of the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Angry</title>
		<link>http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/why-an-average-career-can-be-a-great-career/#comment-61776</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Angry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 06:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maliha: Salamaat.  I with you 100% there.

Michael: It takes some quality character to call yourself on being wrong, kudos to you.  Personally, I think I essentially said what you think I should have said, I think maybe you&#039;re reading the post a bit subjectively.  Either way, you&#039;re free to disagree with me.  The world would be pretty boring if there were never any disagreements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maliha: Salamaat.  I with you 100% there.</p>
<p>Michael: It takes some quality character to call yourself on being wrong, kudos to you.  Personally, I think I essentially said what you think I should have said, I think maybe you&#8217;re reading the post a bit subjectively.  Either way, you&#8217;re free to disagree with me.  The world would be pretty boring if there were never any disagreements.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 04:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose my original comment was pissy, and having read through the rest of the comments, and the post a few times, and taken some time to relax, I still disagree on the whole.

I do understand your view, and in some respects, I don&#039;t disagree.  Proceeding through life trying to achieve the impossible (or at least, statistically improbable) at the expense of personal happiness and fulfillment isn&#039;t exactly my idea of a life well lead.

On the other hand, I do think that we owe it to one another to live up to the best within each of us, and strive to achieve all that we&#039;re individually capable of.  Obviously, among 100 people, only 1 can &quot;succeed&quot; on some ranked metric, but that&#039;s not what I mean.  By success, I simply refer to doing justice to one&#039;s own ability.  I care not a whit for the ability or success of others (although I will certainly use competition as a motivator when applicable).  My original comment was not in disagreement with that, but was instead meant merely to point out apathetic undertones.

You seem to imply a defeatist attitude toward achievement in much of the wording you&#039;ve used.  Namely, that we can&#039;t all be the best, that we shouldn&#039;t try.  Statements such as &quot;If more and more people achieve what they thought would be &#039;life changing&#039; moments then these achievements would actually lose value.&quot; and &quot;If everyone moves closer to greatness, the measure of what is great moves further away by definition.&quot; and &quot;A far more sensible approach would be to have realistic workplace goals...&quot; are technically correct, but bother me in that they&#039;re worded in such a way and placed in such a context as to make me interpret the post as bearing a message of indolence.  I believe we should _always_ try our hardest.  The only kink is that the competition is with ourselves, the judge is our own sense of honor, integrity, and justice, and our reaction is that of fulfillment and pleasure at paying homage to the best within us.

In any case, I still can&#039;t condone the post as written, but I thought I&#039;d apologize for the outburst and explain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose my original comment was pissy, and having read through the rest of the comments, and the post a few times, and taken some time to relax, I still disagree on the whole.</p>
<p>I do understand your view, and in some respects, I don&#8217;t disagree.  Proceeding through life trying to achieve the impossible (or at least, statistically improbable) at the expense of personal happiness and fulfillment isn&#8217;t exactly my idea of a life well lead.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I do think that we owe it to one another to live up to the best within each of us, and strive to achieve all that we&#8217;re individually capable of.  Obviously, among 100 people, only 1 can &#8220;succeed&#8221; on some ranked metric, but that&#8217;s not what I mean.  By success, I simply refer to doing justice to one&#8217;s own ability.  I care not a whit for the ability or success of others (although I will certainly use competition as a motivator when applicable).  My original comment was not in disagreement with that, but was instead meant merely to point out apathetic undertones.</p>
<p>You seem to imply a defeatist attitude toward achievement in much of the wording you&#8217;ve used.  Namely, that we can&#8217;t all be the best, that we shouldn&#8217;t try.  Statements such as &#8220;If more and more people achieve what they thought would be &#8216;life changing&#8217; moments then these achievements would actually lose value.&#8221; and &#8220;If everyone moves closer to greatness, the measure of what is great moves further away by definition.&#8221; and &#8220;A far more sensible approach would be to have realistic workplace goals&#8230;&#8221; are technically correct, but bother me in that they&#8217;re worded in such a way and placed in such a context as to make me interpret the post as bearing a message of indolence.  I believe we should _always_ try our hardest.  The only kink is that the competition is with ourselves, the judge is our own sense of honor, integrity, and justice, and our reaction is that of fulfillment and pleasure at paying homage to the best within us.</p>
<p>In any case, I still can&#8217;t condone the post as written, but I thought I&#8217;d apologize for the outburst and explain.</p>
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		<title>By: Maliha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maliha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salamaat,
Spot on Mr. Angry. Is it just me or is one setting his/her self up for dissapointment if their whole measure of self worth comes from a job?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salamaat,<br />
Spot on Mr. Angry. Is it just me or is one setting his/her self up for dissapointment if their whole measure of self worth comes from a job?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Angry</title>
		<link>http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/why-an-average-career-can-be-a-great-career/#comment-60738</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Angry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 06:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you on self measurement.  My thoughts are always try to be better but have you own stadards for success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you on self measurement.  My thoughts are always try to be better but have you own stadards for success.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Angry,

Thank you for this post. I really enjoyed reading it. I&#039;ve always subscribed to the theory that I must only compete against myself. Only I truly know what my competencies and limitations are and how I can push those bit-by-bit to improve myself. In my experience, it&#039;s foolish to compete with those in the workplace. On one task, you may be far more qualified than others and get too high a sense of self. On another, you may be a little less qualified and either resent those you are working with or kill your self-esteem over it. It&#039;s best to just get along and push yourself internally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Angry,</p>
<p>Thank you for this post. I really enjoyed reading it. I&#8217;ve always subscribed to the theory that I must only compete against myself. Only I truly know what my competencies and limitations are and how I can push those bit-by-bit to improve myself. In my experience, it&#8217;s foolish to compete with those in the workplace. On one task, you may be far more qualified than others and get too high a sense of self. On another, you may be a little less qualified and either resent those you are working with or kill your self-esteem over it. It&#8217;s best to just get along and push yourself internally.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Angry</title>
		<link>http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/why-an-average-career-can-be-a-great-career/#comment-60663</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Angry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandra: nicely put :)

TunnelRat: you may be right about the black turtle neck - maybe I touched a nerve ;)  And you go with the shameless blog plug!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandra: nicely put <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>TunnelRat: you may be right about the black turtle neck &#8211; maybe I touched a nerve <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   And you go with the shameless blog plug!</p>
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		<title>By: TunnekRat</title>
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		<dc:creator>TunnekRat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am tired about hearing about Google and their spoiled workers.  That company is an anomoly -- just a sandbox for the hyper-smart.  And like Mr. Angry, I have resigned myself to a career of incremental productivity. At the end of the day, most people just want their website&#039;s damn shopping cart to work, or the inbound data feed to not blow up again.

BTW, I think Michael is one of the black turtle-neck and trendy glasses guys that Mr. Angry is writing about -- all full of hype and little substance.  They call themselves &quot;idea guys&quot; and have little patience for details.  That is what Mr. Angry and I are their for-- to fill in blanks of their poory though-out &quot;visions.&quot;

Now, time for a shameless blog plug:

&lt;a href=&#039;http://integrityconsulting.net/blog/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Overpaid and Underworked C# .NET\SQL Developer&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am tired about hearing about Google and their spoiled workers.  That company is an anomoly &#8212; just a sandbox for the hyper-smart.  And like Mr. Angry, I have resigned myself to a career of incremental productivity. At the end of the day, most people just want their website&#8217;s damn shopping cart to work, or the inbound data feed to not blow up again.</p>
<p>BTW, I think Michael is one of the black turtle-neck and trendy glasses guys that Mr. Angry is writing about &#8212; all full of hype and little substance.  They call themselves &#8220;idea guys&#8221; and have little patience for details.  That is what Mr. Angry and I are their for&#8211; to fill in blanks of their poory though-out &#8220;visions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, time for a shameless blog plug:</p>
<p><a href='http://integrityconsulting.net/blog/' rel="nofollow">Overpaid and Underworked C# .NET\SQL Developer</a></p>
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